Well Herb, I guess it was me . Tommy Ott, never let me forget it. It was to be his part of the morning show. He knew I couln't say words with sh's or ch's .He told Mr. Bockting that I was ready,he set me up.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/08/2003 08:42:40

Gus, those were great years. Sometimes after a few martinis, I wish I could do it again. On second thought that probably wouldn't be a good idea. If I did, I probably wouldn't be here today. Talk to ya latter. Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/08/2003 09:16:04

By chuck helmly (1969)

Hey Herb:

Those really were great days. Remember the night at PAL when I got into a fight with some guy, I think his name was Raul, from Coral Park. You broke it up and we said that our boys would meet their boys at Coral Gables Youth Center the next day. We were all nervous because the word on the street was that he was a psycho and had a machine gun in his trunk. The next day about 50 guys showed up from both sides. You got in the middle and negotiated a settlement and we both shook hands and walked away.

Hope everything is good with you.

I can't wait to see you at the reunion

Chuck
Hady Kady

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/08/2003 07:08:19

Chuck,
Nice to hear from you. It's been a hell of a long time. Those were crazy times back then. Fun but crazy. Hope things are going well for you and your family. It will be great to see you at the reunion. Take care brother.

Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/08/2003 08:28:28

Herb, you said you got in touch with kimel ????? how do we get in touch with him??? I got e-mail from Sam @ Injay. Signed up arturo today.You are going to the reunion right.??? How about the following week to 35th ?? Gaston

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/08/2003 08:45:49

Does anyone remember Perpich, the day he decided to go to Eric Munos house (WHEEL MEETING) and challenge them to go outside to get their asses beat? Once they came out and actually saw us they shitted in their pants?????Perpich being the nice guy that he was, said I'am going to allow you to be active one more year. I believe that was Wheels last year 68.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/08/2003 08:46:13

By Jose (Toto) Ortega, 69'

It's nice to hear from all you guys! Looking forward to seeing everyone at the reunion. I'm still trying to find lost brothers!
Hope we get a good response for the golf tournament!
Toto

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/08/2003 09:58:58

ToTO, glad to see you on the message board. How about your brother louie? was little joe in Stags ?? How about Vidal,Saavedra,Raul @ some of the Key Rats? keep in touch. Gaston

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/09/2003 05:20:43

By chuck helmly (1969)

Hey Toto, good the hear from you. I look forward to seeing you at the reunion.

Chuck

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/09/2003 05:50:36

Chuck, I read that Chuck Ladd Past away. Did you know about it???? what is going on with our group???? Gaston

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/09/2003 07:10:33

Gaston,
You can reach Kimel at kkimel@aol.com. I will be at the stags reunion for the first evening, maybe the second. I'm still not sure about the C/G reunion. I'm based in Chicago so it's hard to plan ahead. By the way, what do you hear about Perpich? I have tried just about everything to locate him without any sussess.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/09/2003 07:21:25

Gus, that was suppose to be "success". It's been a long day.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/10/2003 02:53:41

By Gaston Ruiz

Herb, if we can get together any time its fine with me .We go back a long time and time is getting the best of us. Today I read about Chuck Ladd. We are talking Jr.High . Lets all get get together and reminise about the past.Gaston

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/11/2003 08:57:30

By Roberto ("Speedy") Suarez

Hey guys ... glad to see that we are getting fired up for the reunion...Chuck(How are you doing?)..Toto (I'm in for golf!!!)...

Where's Manny Vidal?

The "Columbus Boys" will be there...

Peace and Balance,

Roberto

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/11/2003 08:52:53

By Isidro Jauregui

Gaston, Herb its nice to read and reminess about the the good old times we all had together but I don't see in the list Arturo, Nelson etc. hope this guys are planing on coming to the reunion. Here at Key we are in touch with Toto, Many Vidal, Raul, Scoppetta etc.

Stay in touch

Isidro

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/11/2003 11:30:54

By Jose Herrera

If an old fart may intrude I'm glad to see some of the "younger" brothers start to kick ass and get this reunion really off the ground.I'm looking forward to seeing some of you that I know and those that I do not,including real old farts from the 50s. We go back a really long time.
Gaston can't get my damned scanner to do what I want so I'm mailing everything to Kavney.

Those of you that have pictures,bid notices etc please send to Jim Kavney for posting.

Herrera (65)

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/12/2003 12:29:52

Hey Gus:

Chuckie(Ladd)passed away about 5 years ago. I think from liver complications. Norman Dicks, I don't know if you remember him, aslo died. It is really wierd that so many have died. Although we aren't 18 anymore! Back then, I thought I would be dead or killed by the time I reached 30, so I guess we are not doing so bad after all.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/12/2003 12:33:04

Hey Roberto:

I'm doing great. I can't wait to see all of you guys for a little craziness.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/12/2003 12:39:31

Hey Roberto and the rest of the boys.

Do you guys remember the Athenians football game!

Remember Perpich (gus were you the other) was one of the referrees and the Athenians fans were sitting in the stands pounding hammers and bats on the bleachers throughout the game.

Talk about intiminating!!! Hey, at least we had the balls to play them. No one else would.

Hady kady

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/12/2003 05:27:44

By Stephen Bischoff

Chuck,
Wasn't there a pledge named Brubacker that
we teed off on at Ladd's house. If I remember
correctly you and I didn't want him to make
it. Find out if he made it and if he's coming.
That football game against Athenians is one
I'll never forget. They told brother George Mendoza that if he played they were going to
shot him. They never fought one on one, they
were chicken shits!! After the game three of
them jumped me and I had to bite my way out of
it.(I guess Tyson must have heard about that)
Hope all is well with family! Say hello to
Mom and Dad

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/12/2003 11:40:49

Have no fear I am hear and I will save your ass from those BAB!!! Athenians that tried to intimidate you guys.
They once showed up at my house on the Key in full force because they claimed that I was trying to recruit Bobby Guell into Stags. We went to Guell,s house the next day and he told them that I was his Brother and if anybody had a problem with me they had a problem with him. They were shocked when they realized we were ready to take the five of them on.

By the way, for those of you that may not know Bobby Guell and I stayed close friends for many years until his untimely death by a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head a few years back.

On a Good note is great to see the Stags Brotherhood come alive on this great site and we should thank the Brothers that brought it to life.

I suggested to Gaston that we have a football game between the brothers from the fities and those from the sixties to to determine once and for all who had the better athletes. Or maybe Golf?

Hey! How come we don't hear anything from the girls? Betsi, Janet, Carol, Ginger let's hear your side of the story. John S.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/13/2003 09:14:50

Hey Steve:

I remember Brubaker. He made it in and turned out to be a really good guy. What about Moose (I think his name was Richard Mahan)?

I thought about Norman Dicks the other day. He needs to be put on the deceased list also.

Hey, remember the days we used to skip school and go to sewer beach.

We also need to get in touch with Kennedy.

Has anyone heard from Ajar?

Chuck
Hady Kady

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/13/2003 09:37:20

Can some of the guys that were in Stags prior to the breakup (71?) try to determine who the historian was at that time? When Tommy Ott (68)had those duties I remember that the photo books went all the way back to the 50's. Three complete volumes. ( No offense intended to our Brothers of the 50's). If anyone has any info on this, please email me or post on this thread. TIA

Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/13/2003 09:51:40

John and Isidro, nice to see you guys posting. Hope you all are doing well. John, someone pointed out your new house to me a while back. What a beautiful home! There's only one thing wrong with it. IT'S NOT MINE! Take care.
Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/13/2003 06:49:34

Chuck ,Thanks for the imfo on Ladd. I was told about Norman Dicks from some guy that hung out with tikes at So.Miami. I see the guy at the keg all the time.Hey is that Steve Bishoff, talking tough????? I always remember us brothers saving his ASS. Looking forward to see you at the reunion Steve. Gaston

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/13/2003 06:55:21

Herb, Stags didn't breakup in 71, it was mid-70s. I spoke to arturo about the picture books,last known person to have them was Ralph tezanos.Arturo is going to ck it out.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/13/2003 07:04:26

John, do you recall any of the younger guys being tough ?????Must be as the get older they remember events differently. I,believe golf would be more appropriate of a game. IS GOLF A SPORT ????? Chocho ,(CHI CHI Rodriguez) and Arturo,(lee Trevino )Will represent us well.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/13/2003 07:15:32

You are wrong Herb, It is your house. As we say in spanish mi casa is su casa. Next time come on in. The area has been great to live in the last five years and the house is wonderful.

What have you been doing? Are you still flying? I see your picture in the web site you look great in the picture, is that a recent picture?

I remember listening to your radio broadcast when you were doing the weather in Miami. Lets stay active on the Web site and get lots of stories posted.

Whatever you do, DO NOT!! get into a golf match with Isidro and Toto it could be dangerous
to your wallet.... Talk to you soon John S.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/13/2003 07:16:16

Isidro, good to see your name pop up, I registered Arturo on friday,Nelson lives in Puerto Rico and Arturo is going to let him know.John told me that his little brother still hang out with guys from his group from Stags . Got to get them on the list .Can wait to see you and talk about all those open houses you single handly shut down while backing my ass up. I remember a few.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/13/2003 08:03:34

Gaston:

Now you're talking my game, but Arturo is minor leagues. Jackie let's get a golf game going. To brothre Herrera, why do you keep calling Ken Diaz; "Culo de Goma"? Please expalin!!!
(For you crackers out there that means Rubber Ass)

Manny

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/13/2003 08:08:58

Manny, did you finally wake up from a deep sleep .e-mailed you last week. Got a hold of Vizzini and Kimel thanks to Herb.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/14/2003 08:04:13

By little d , big M

The class of '58 De Fore and de Mello will take on your two best golfers in a better ball outing.
Where are we playing?

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/14/2003 09:16:00

The late 60's TDT Boys are ready for GOLF! so you better get out there and practice. Steve, Roberto, Toto, Isidro, Manny, and anyone else that is ready let's make reservations and kick ass!!!...john.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/14/2003 11:50:17

By Stephen Bischoff

John
Why don't we make a mini-golf tour. at the
Biltmore on Saturday before party. See who interested and reserve tee times. We can include
all the pros but we need real handicaps. Guston
was always a ladies man, can,t remember the other side of his comment. I am making reserv.
to stay at Biltmore Friday and Saturday.
Great site !!!

Let me know.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/14/2003 03:51:27

John,

I'm still flying for United. I'm based in Chicago, so that's quite a challenge. You really have a good memory, that was 1973-74 that I was broadcasting traffic for WINZ. Back then there was only me in a Cessna 172, now it's a Bell Jet Ranger and a crew of three. About the picture, I look much younger now, just ask Garcia. I second thought you better not. Looking forward to seeing you. Take care John.

Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/14/2003 07:05:34

By Class 68

Guys, for those that play golf. Take a good look at the 1958 Stags Composite, we are being challenged by De Fore @ De Mello.Chaplin and Secretary . LOOK OUT this could be trouble. Don't forget they have the advantage. Most of us were not allowed in golf courses until after segregation.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/14/2003 07:15:18

Hey Steven, we are ready to play some golf!!! Roberto is going to host a seminar on tranquility at 7:30 AM on Saturday morning. After that we can begin our golf tournament. I will call the Biltmore tomorrow and make reservations for at least three foursomes. If you think there will be more than that, maybe we can get additional tee times.

Herb, I remember your broadcast very clearly I can imagine flying around in those thunderstorms must the been hell. Youre absolutely right a bell ranger would be the way to fly you could soom in over a South Beach and look at all the topless women on the Beach. Of course, I would tell my wife I was looking for weed lines. Sea weed that is.

Manny Garcia, I know you had the best time at the Gables 30 Reunion. On the floor with Ann mc Dade was a true site to behold and you made a brother proud, keep up the good work at the Stags reunion. Love Ya. John S.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/14/2003 08:15:36

By Jose (Toto) Ortega, 69'

Jack, the Golf Tournament is getting organized by Tom Schultz and the information is under the
Reunion Registration,sign up. Bye the way, Isidro is playing with a 22 handicap.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/14/2003 10:09:45

Toti, the problem with Ike is not the handicap all we do is devide it by 2 and we have the # John

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/15/2003 09:21:06

By little d , big M

In reference to the aspersions to Brother DeFoor being the chaplain, he was also the best broad-jumper and breaststroker at dear ole Gables. Besides he was sick the day of that composite.
Additionally, I was out of high school before I found out there were actually 18 holes not 16 like we used to play. Brother Hager gave me my first lesson. He said you couldn't tee the ball up on the fairway. I still think it's a dumb rule.

Batiremos algunds Stags del bebe'.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/15/2003 07:51:12

It looks like the brothers from 57 are prepared to challenge us to a golf tournament.

This should be very interesting since Bischoff, Suarez,Scopetta,Jauregui and Ortega have only recently taken up the sport.

However we will rise to the occation and represent the 60s with true stags Honor.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/15/2003 11:38:25

hey guys. all my buddies from the great days of gables, fights(of course I was usually there) and stag parties, football games and just fun!!!!
I remember the athenian fight at the youth center. i don't remember who it was, but i remember sitting on the hood of a car and seeing this guy from athenians come over me with a hammer and hit someone in stags in the head with it. i took whoever it was to a house next door and washed his head off with a hose!! i have never forgotten that scene in my mind! golf? are girls invited? i can't wait to see you all. janet

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/15/2003 11:47:04

hi guys!! I remember you all like it was yesterday. herb, john, gaston, steve, toto, and everyone else. perpich is probably not still around. he was crazy back then. we were all crazy i know but he was at the top of the list. i remember he was a great baseball player. o.k. i'm reading the message board that handsome, blue eyed, gaston began (good job gaston)and i want to weigh in on a few subjects. who was the guy whose head i cleaned up with a garden hose after he got hit with a hammer at a fight with the athenians across fromt the biltmore hotel????? i have never forgotten that image but can't remember who it was. of course, i seemed to always be at those fights!!!! we had a great time didn't we? are girls invited to the golf tournament? can't wait to see you all there. janet

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/16/2003 01:44:34

It's great to finally hear from one of our beautiful stags ladies. Hope things are good with you Janet. Look forward to seeing you at the reunion.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/16/2003 05:08:55

Great to hear from you Janet. When I saw your post I couldn't help but think about the time you "Papered" my house. If my memory serves me right you were with Peggy S. I didn't recall hearing anything because the stereo was up too high blasting "The Beachboys". Enough said! The fellow that got hit in the head was Leo Lanieve. It was a bowling pin, not a hammer. You and I plus a few more took him back to his home to clean him up. He lived right next to the Biltmore Hotel. It will be great to see you again. Take care, Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/16/2003 05:57:47

Herb, it was at the Coral Gables youth center .He got hit both by a pin ball hammer and a bowling pin. Luis Cruz hit him with the hammer. That whole fight started out because of Chuck Helmly got in the fight at P.A.L with a guy from coral park Titans .Loui Laneave, hung out with Columbus Titans. Athenians found out about it when I told Lazaro Rivera. They came to fight with us against them. (Luis Cruz,Lazaro,Merlano,Toby,Bobby Guell,Butifaras,Moco and the rest of those boys. That Janet has a hell of a memory. I am sure I was not involved in it. I was always the level headed one.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/16/2003 08:29:50

Gus, with a memory like that you should write a book. I can remember the major events but the details have left me a long time ago. Have a great weekend. Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/16/2003 08:48:55

Herb, I'am looking for an agent that I can trust.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/16/2003 09:16:33

Herb, i thought about papering your house today and was going to email you tonight. can't believe you remembered that. we papered your house better than anyone has ever papered a house. everything was covered!!! i also can't believe you remembered the bowling ball incident. i was so scared the bowling ball became a hammer! o.k. girls. sweethearts and sponsors let me hear from you whether you play golf. lets get a foursome together and show these guys how golf is played! janet

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/16/2003 09:33:17

Janet, I'am not a golfer but I love to sit and wait for the guys at the club house and have a drink or two.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/17/2003 12:53:01

By Caleb Estes

The reunion is rapidly approaching and we are still looking for missing brothers. In reading the messages posted here it appears some of you are in touch with brothers on the missing list. Please take a moment and look at the lists of sponsors, brothers, and missing brothers. If you know were any of the missing are or know of any names that need to be added to the lists, Please pass the information on to Brother Jim Kavney.

Jim Kavney hissn1@aol.com

We need to spend what little time we have left looking for those brothers that are truly missing and we need your help to do this.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/17/2003 03:28:51

By Don Humphries

Herb '68,
If anyone has those old pictures please build a fire under their ass to get them to Kavney or me for that matter. You know us old guys from the '50's don't have many days left.
Tau Delt
Don '57

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/17/2003 06:36:23

Speedy, I dont see your Cc high guys on.Flynn,Rocky martin Plus the Mendozas???? Get on the ball if not we are going to BLACKBALL YOU.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/17/2003 06:40:21

Chuck, how about Templeton ,Doug Simpson .

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/17/2003 06:43:59

Paula,How about your 1972 guys. (HELP )You guys were the last of of the STAGS BROTHERS.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/17/2003 11:24:40

gston, thanks so much for getting in touch with cielo gibson. i've been looking for her for years. she emailed me yesterday and it was so great to hear from her. she is coming to the reunion also.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/18/2003 08:27:24

Don, Gaston Ruiz says he may have a lead on the "past year books" Lets keep our fingers crossed.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/18/2003 12:43:40

By chuck Helmly (69)

Gus:

I believe Chip Templeton is living in North Carolina. I will try to contact him. I don't know about Doug Simpson. What about Art Abney from Palmetto. Remember him. He might still be around.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/18/2003 01:55:28

Chuck, I got a hold of Abney Yesterday .

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/18/2003 03:44:00

By Class 68

All you brothers from 69 thru the 70s did you have sweethearts @ sponsors????? Give us some names to work with.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/19/2003 12:51:38

By Pam Porter 1968

Hey Guys,

remember me? I'm sure you all thought I dropped off the face of the earth!! I am alive & well and planning to come to this reunion!! I think about you all and all the fun of those days often.
I was broken hearted to miss the HS 20th reunion, but I had a good excuse-lived in California and I was 8mos. pregnant. Have also lived out of the country with my husband and son for a number of years. Don't play golf (I'm a yoga girl), but I'd loved to sit in the bar (Gaston) and have a drink & catch up after all these years. John Scoppeta-thank you for your email, I will be in touch. Cielo..where are you? I've been looking for you for years!! I am in the process of moving to Bethesda, MD outside of DC this summer with my family. see you all soon-can not wait.
I don't remember all those fights-I hope everyone has calmed down!!

Pam

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/19/2003 05:50:12

Pam, looking forward to sitting in the club house lounge and having a drink with you ,Janet and Cielo, while the rest of the guys play golf.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/20/2003 02:45:13

Please read Jim's post on Bob Ajar. I have not been able to get through yet but will keep trying. Make a phone call to him. What a wonderful way to show him that you care. Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/20/2003 03:10:33

Herb, just e-mailed Jim to thank him for locating Bobby. I hope the guys see the message and respond . Ahjar was a special Brother to a lot of us. With out him back then life would have been pretty boring for all us . let us make it a point to contact him

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/20/2003 05:25:03

I just got off the phone with Bobby. He really sounded happy to hear from a Brother. Believe me, you will make his day with a phone call. He said that he is going to try to make the reunion. I sure hope so. Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/20/2003 06:08:45

By Stags Brothers

WHO WAS THE STAGS SWEETHEART AND THE SPONSORS FOR 1967???????? help.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/20/2003 06:54:42

Hey guys, just spoke to Ahjar he sounds good and says he is feeling better every day Told me he is working out so that we can go out and kick someones ass. I told him to save it for the reunion. He wants to hear from you all. Take 5 minutes from your day and make the call.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/20/2003 07:59:08

Hey Pam welcome!!!! I am glad that you got my e-mail I wasnt sure if you would receive it sinse I had sent you one on a previous occasion.

Herbie what is wrong with a Ahjar you mention something about him getting better?
And by the way Bobby welcome. Its been a long time.
Has anybody heard from Johnstone, Nelson Gonzalez, George Cadenas. You know If we can't find him I don't think Janet is coming. just kidding.

Hey Pam, I lost track of Ruthie do you know anything about her? Pam, I read somewhere that you were an attorney? Is that correct? See you all later.... John kwtmax@aol TDT

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/20/2003 08:21:07

Hey Guys:

Keep me posted on the Golf game. Janet, I can only take one Annika at a time, keep Gaston company at the 19th hole. Pam, great to hear from you. Cielo quit telling lies, I did not stand you up in high school, it was Ponce The Spring Dance 1964 the other girl bought the tickets and she insisted in going, what's a guy to do??? I remember, I use to deliver The Herald to your house, after the dance your Mom never paid me again.

Manuel

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/20/2003 09:15:37

By Caleb Estes

John.

Paul Johnstone is listed on classmates.com I sent him a message on 3/31/03 with the address for the Stags website and Jim Kavney's E-mail address. He read the message but hasn't responded. If any of you guys have a full membership to classmates.com, try contacting him.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/20/2003 10:16:42

Hi Janet, Long time no see. To get the story correct once and for all, the guy that got hit on the head was not Lui, it was his brother and it was at the Youth Center and if we would have known that it would be one traumatic memory for you we would of kicked Hemlly's butt for starting the fight in the first place.
You told me that your best memory was when Raul set the motel room in fire while George, you, Ruthie and I went to the movies and we had to sleep in the car because the maneger evicted us at 2AM. Love Ya as always.... John

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 07:12:10

John, read the Thread by Jim Kavney. "Message about Bob Ajar". It explains it all. Bob would love to hear from you. Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 10:33:58

By Pam Porter 1968

This is so much fun & great to be in touch with you after so many years. I made my reservation for the Biltmore yesterday. John and Gaston-wonderful to be talking with you via email...you all were so sweet to me even tho I was a traitor and went out with a guy from Tekes! Altho I guess I did go back and forth. John, I have lost touch with Ruthie as well. would love to find her-I've tried. It's tough with women as the last names change. Hello Manuel (I need a ride..can you pick me up at the drugstore? thanks..) I'll be racking my brain for memories to share when I see you. I especially recall magical times on the Keys..on your boat John, catching lobsters. I still don't remember all the ass kicking, but then boys will be boys and I did have my head in the clouds a lot. I'm not a lawyer John, I'll save the life details for when I see you. love pam

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 12:01:35

John, stop with the public stories about us sleeping in motel rooms!! I have matured, but am still always ready for a good time. Pam, how great to hear from you and am so happy you will be at the reunion. Of course you don't remember the fights, you were too much of a lady to attend one. I remember you as a tall beautiful girl with lots of poise and class. me, i was running with the boys!!! i have been talking with cielo. i too, was looking for her forever. she is also coming to the reunion. john, i will come if george doesn't come. it has been 33 years since i've seen or spoken to george and from what i have heard about his life i don't think we have much in common anymore. however, don't get me wrong, if he comes, i will be the first one to plant a huge kiss on his lips!!! and manny i don't hold a candle to annika, she is younger, prettier and a much better player. i don't need to play with you guys, i'll play alone and bother you all all day to play through!!!! janet

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 12:07:37

john, send me your email. i lost it and i want to talk with you. janet

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 04:24:23

By wise old man

Janet, to get addresses and email click on "Stags Brothers", then scroll down to the name you want. John's email is on this list.
wom (wise old man)

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 05:18:06

Glad to see that we are acting and responding to each other like the old gang. (sorry I meant club).

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 06:24:08

Chocho, spoke to arturo this morning he says he is tired of kicking you ass in the golf course. That you always quit counting stokes beyond the 12th hole. Is he telling the truth????? Remember stags honor.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 06:40:38

Gaston:

Arturo is full of S...!, I get bored by the 12th hole having to wait for him hit his ball 3 times to catch up with my drive. He reminds me of a Pez dispenser, his pockets are full of golf balls and he drops one on every shot and says" I found it".
Pam, I'll pick you up, remember that old MG sedan I use to drive, you were crazy to ride in that old bucket, see you soon.
Janet, if you must come out on the course, could you be our drink lady?

Manuel

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 07:01:04

Chocho,Have a little respect for our beautiful girls. It is my duty as a good brother to make sure that I'am responsible for the protection of our sweethearts @ sponsors during our reunion. Don't forget had it not been for me none of you would have had dates in high school.We will be waiting for all of you at the club house.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 07:06:30

By Cielo

Ok Manuel, Ponce or Gables what difference does it make. My mother is to be congratulated for not paying you for those papers! It's great to be a part of this. I keep crying - I think it's menopause!!! Somehow I knew we would all come back together. The strange thing is that it seems like yesterday, and I know that each of us has been through all kinds of situations. John, it sounds like you're looking for a lawyer! I remember the fights and, especially, the one where Isidro broke Sam's girlfriend's (can't remember her name)brother's jaw. That was grand!!! I can also attest to a fight Isidro and Toto got into at the toll gate. Toto was drunk and Isidro was digging in his pocket for a quarter. They got into a fight because Toto thought Isidro was going gay on him. Lot's of fun and lot's of stories.

I work with Native Americans and it's like being at a full time Stags party. I can't wait to see each and evey one of you. John, what did you do with that ole' mustang? Pam and Janet, we won't lose touch again. Now I am starting to cry again. Oh, s--- I can't stop.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 07:18:17

Cielo,Mannuel never had a real date in in his life, after all he got lucky in Jr high because like he said the girl bought the ticket. If Isidro got credited for breaking Sam's girl friends brothers jaw thats ok .But it was Ignacio Pascual who actually did it in front of B.K across from ponce the night of our keg party in sewer beach.Her name was Rena Moyers.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 07:25:41

By Joe Herrera

After reading your emails you guys from late 60s on sure sound like a bunch of rough guys. I'm so glad to have been a Stag in the quiet years. My goodness fights,tackle football games,getting quicked out of motels it sets my hair on end,sure we had a few encounters but people left us alone for if not we would kick their ass.Those left behind after 65/66 must have had a rough time, I'm glad you could handle it.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 07:49:24

Hi Cielo welcome back in to our livesit is so wonderful to see you posting stories on the Web site. Last time I saw you was at South Miami hospital so you must have a child close to my sons age.

I cant believe that Janet is complaining about stories involving hotel rooms???? What about when we went up the coast to Cocoa Beach . That was really great.

Janet U cant play in our foursome and don't be fooled by all the B. S. these guys are posting about their golf games. They are much better talkers then players.

Actually now that I think about it, I had to spend that famous night in front of your house sleeping in the car with George. I wish we could at least get one story straight. ...John

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 07:50:43

Joe ,thanks to your class we had no choice but to do the things we did. We looked up to you bad boys for the way you were and all it got us was our butts kicked . We left in 68 as rulers of not gables high , but of all dade county. Ask our 1968 brothers. guys help me out on this one .....Love you ,Joe

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 08:26:46

Janet,I apologize, of course you can play with our foursome any time. My mistake,...john
To those brothers from other years visiting our web site, dont be misguided by some of the stories you read. They have a tendency to become the larger with age.

Mr. Herrera, you and Gonzalo were pioneers in allowing Cubans to become members of Stags. We thank you to this date for that privilege.
I will tell you that we were not as bad as it sounds, actually some of us participated in many wholesome activities such as, donut sales, carwashes, and money laundering oops....John

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 08:27:07

Scopetta, since we are now bringing in the past. Do you remember the night we went to Paula Solomons house and her parents showed up ???? your cougar broke down and we spent the night at the golf course???? What was the Blondies name that hung out with her ??? Also Mr.Surfur Daytona beach ,surf board coming off the rack and wipping out half the town???

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 08:33:42

John, they were not pioneers. They showed up on Americas Shores on Mark Leopolds Ship lines.Mark was one of Gonzalos best friend in jr high .To this day Herrera correct me if I'am wrong the 1st Jewish brother.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 09:42:04

he wasn't first jewish brother there were several before him in my class we had pete swartzand his brother followed close behind

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 10:44:19

Terrence, I'm sure they were some back then. But according to Mark he was the 1st from our days in modern times.Most of us weren't born back then. but thanks for updating us on past history.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/21/2003 10:58:22

o.k. guys. first to you manny. drink lady??? i don't think so. you don't want me to play because you don't want to get beat by a girl!! tell it like it is.... you can be my caddy!!! next to you john. John, i always considered you one of my best buds. first you talk about sleeping in motels together and now you are publically posting about our trip to cocoa beach. Don't you dare. don't take that trip any further!! and gaston, you have been my friend since we were 10. thanks again for sticking up for me and protecting me. cielo, stop crying. put on your party shoes. we can't have a keg party on sewer beach again (i don't think it's still there) but we can party like we did in the stags days at the biltmore. i'll tell you all about menopause. been there done that. by the way, who was president of stags in 68? and also, none of you guys seem to have changed much. janet

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/22/2003 07:25:44

Gaston: Are you saying modern times is 1966 and 1957 is yesteryear looks like 9 years to me...pete swartz is missing at present but I'm sure that if this gets back to him he will show at reunion and be right behind deMello

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/22/2003 09:12:56

Gus:

If I remember correctly (which is getting harder and harder as the years go by!!!), 1968 was the first year Stags recruited brothers from high schools other than Gables. I remember rushing people from Palmetto, Southwest, Columbus, Raiford(just kidding),etc. It was all part of our plan to expand our power base throughout South Florida and be the most dominate force in the area.

Speaking of hotel rooms, who was the brother from columbus who was throwing matresses out of the third floor window one night during one of our adventures. Steve or Roberto, I think you guys were there.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/22/2003 05:00:19

By John Gibson

John Gibson the Treasurer of STAGS in 69-70 and 71
is stating your dues are late - pay up!

Where is the composites for those years?

Want to hear from everyone!!

John

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/22/2003 06:43:48

By Stags Brothers

Brother Terrence , Looking at the 1956 composite you seem to me like a real likeable guy, after all you are the only old timer on our thread.We appreciate and respect any and all comments you may say. By the way ,its 1968, thats a decade Plus.All in good fun(if you want our respect). Keep DeMello out of it. We have about 25 new Brothers dying to meet him.Further more brother Humphries has not made those tickets that I offered to buy available to me yet. Keep writing in ,you would love the guys from my years.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/22/2003 06:54:47

Herrera

Monkey see monkey do!!! I remember a rush party at Tahiti Beach, were you did a mexican hat dance on this guy's head,and then the little guy.... what was his name??? Gonzalo; got in a few kicks too.

Janet, just pulling your chain, but ask Jackie what we normally call the drink lady, I cleaned it up for you. If you want to play it'll be great but you can't have any of my Advil.

Cielo, don't get emotional on us now, you said that you felt it was yesturday, hell, I can't remember what I ate this AM.

Gaston, maybe you're right about the dates, but don't forget you're about 4 or 5 years older than all of us!!!

Manuel

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/22/2003 07:17:30

Manny, you wish. You drove a car in jr high.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/22/2003 07:23:25

O K Guys, We need to find Jeran McClain. She's the only one missing from our 68 sponsors.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/22/2003 09:13:06

Janet, on worry about you you claimed to have matured but you dont sound like it.

Cielo, I wish I still had the Mustang it would be worth a lot of money today. Unfortunately I drive a truck now and it is GREAT!!!!

Manuel, I dont get your comments about the drink lady, are you referring to the Colombian one on key Biscayne, then I would understand what you mean but J is going to kick your ass. However you are the smart one so please explain.

A Gaston, I am still waiting for my lunch, Roberto came over today and had lunch with me and all he talks is meditation and harmony. He must weigh about 50 pounds. He signs off on all his e-mail with the words peace and balance a little strange, I dont know if he can play golf anymore. This really in is looking good...John

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/22/2003 09:42:07

John,I was waiting to hear from you. I asked you to pick the place. By the way I spoke to arturo he says that if you pay for the round of Golf he is in . I'am off tomorrow.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/22/2003 10:11:25

By chuck Helmly (69)

Hey brother John (Gibson), good to hear from you. Don't worry about my dues man, they are in the mail!

Hope to see you at the reunion.

Chuck

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/23/2003 06:03:45

By Billy Adams

Gaston, Big Daddy Perkins is looking for you.

Let the old farts play golf with you candy boys, I'm sure you will be looking for strokes and adult supervision.(This is Jose idea)LET HIM KNOW HOW YOU FELL ABOUT BOYS.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/23/2003 06:45:47

John:

Can't talk about drink lady over the internet, I'll tell you at the reunion. By the way, I figured out what is wrong with Arturo's golf game;
"LOFT" What is LOFT you ask? Lack of F...... Tallent.
Can't wait to see you all. We can celebrate Gaston's birthday, he'll be 57 this coming August.

Manuel

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/23/2003 06:48:37

Billy, I mean Mr.Adams. You can do and say whatever you like .We all would be Honored to have you join us anytime . After all who is going to say no to you. Herrera , is just one of the guys ,we dont have to worry about him. Great to hear from you Billy.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/23/2003 09:58:19

By Don Humphries

John, Checked out the article about you by Charlies Nobles. Glad to see that you practiced where the action was and not with those pussys with numbers 49 and lower.
Bro Don #51

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/23/2003 10:35:28

Stags brothers stick together, you cant imagine how much we had to pay brother Nobles to write the article. Johnstone and I knew that Mr. Nobles was a brother at the time he wrote the article, and if we begged him enough he would put our picture in the paper.
I was always concerned about Paul playing behind me, I wanted to play middle linebacker as in 60 key defense, so I could stand up and he would make me get down in the 50 key on all fours in front of him, NOT GOOD!!!!!
By the way don't be intimidated by the hoods, we wore them for special effects, in anticipation of getting a part in a future movie to be named Star Wars. john

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/26/2003 02:06:59

hey guys!I'm holding in my right hand the paddle that was cracked on my personal ass during my hell night.Herb called me and told me about this web site and the reunion...this is great!

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/26/2003 09:07:42

Art,glad to see a Palmetto brother and an old friend ,back with the rest of us.Do you have e-mail. I put your name on the list, glad Herbie got a hold of you....

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/26/2003 09:19:57

By Don Humphries

Be sure to bring that paddle to the reunion.
don '57

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/26/2003 11:53:01

By Jose Herrera

Gaston I would never say NO to Billy (Bear) even though I could handle myself pretty well I remember an open house full of Miami High Titans where there was a fight a minute, I pushed this guy before I looked and YES IT WAS THE LEGEND BIG DADDY PERKINS (for those of you that dont know he was 6'3, 350 pounds and loved to fight. I did the sensible thing and looked for shelter behind Genie Nesmith (Billy's girl later wife) and Big Daddy made BIG MISTAKE he pushed Genie. Out of the blue a fist (no lie) measuring 37 inches across came out of the blue (I thought it was GOD) and hit Big Daddy and actually moved him a few inches, the fight went on to the bathroom where THE FIST FROM GOD hit Big Daddy so hard that he fell in a stall TOTALLY removing the entire toilet assembly from the floor,leaving Big Daddy on the floor. That will teach the sonofabitch to fool with me.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/27/2003 10:25:38

Hello Art:

It is great to hear from you. Look forward to seeing you at the reunion.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/27/2003 01:12:41

By Pam Porter 1968

Hi everyone...I will be out of touch for a bit as I am going to be moving over the next two months,
so will be in & out of town. See you all at the Biltmore!! It will be great to catch up. janet, thanks for the kind words...however, while I was being quietly poised you were obviously having much more fun! Hope you will join Cielo & I for a girl's lunch, drink, whatever. Pam
p.s. I think you were ALL legends in your own time. Just thinking of Miami makes me long for paella.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/27/2003 03:08:55

pam. i'll be right there with you and cielo for whatever you want to arrange. can't wait to see you. found ruth sigler. talked with her an hour yesterday! left a message for jeran today with her husband's answering service. maybe we will get lucky and have all four sponsors of '68 at the reunion. they will need to give us an award for being there for them in 1968 and again in 2003!!!

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/27/2003 04:35:39

Herrera, you were always a good story teller. As a 9th grader, gonzalo took me to some of those open houses at the Knights of something in flagler .I do remember Mr. Adams taking care of a few people. One I have never forgotten was in an open house when this so called bad ass hit Billy in the face a couple of times before he decided to totally make hamburger meat out of him. this was that cuban guy they called EL JEFE INDIO. from miami high he hung out with saxons. Herb and I were talking about it the other day.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/27/2003 11:16:34

By Jose Herrera

We should all go to history of stags club and learn things we did not know about Stags. Its great to see old guys from 49 and up talk about those days.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 02:54:30

Yeah,speaking of history and tradition,do any of you guys remember the words to "THE SONG"?

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 03:48:12

Gus,I have this vivid memory of watching through a real high chain link fence like a basket ball court or something somewhere I'd never been before,watching this latin guy literally flying through the air while being pummeled by the legendary Adams.As the poor guy was running away I remember him saying in this real deep voice..."let him go".I was awestruck cause I'd never seen anything like that before (a harbinger of things to come...)so I think the scene was a bunch of TIKES hanging with the STAGS guys.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 04:14:09

hello Chuck!Looking forward to seeing you,brother.And has anyone heard from Steve Bischoff?I wonder if he remembers the day we met.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 07:42:32

"THE SONG" That Art is referring to was our Sweetheart Song. At our annual sweetheart formal dinners we would sing this song to them followed by the Stags Club chant. The words to this song start out "The flowers that I seek never grew before, the birds never sang what they sung" or something like that. If any of you can get the words, please post them. I'll never forget the expressions on the faces of our Sponsors/Sweethearts when we sang that song to them at the end of that evening.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 08:17:08

"Another Billy Adams Story" Fresh out of Junior High I got rushed by both Stags and Counts. One evening while being rushed by Stags I was out with Billy at Hot Shops. We sat down and ordered some food and guess who walks up and sits down? Phil Tracy and Ron Fulks (God rest his soul) Billy didn't say a thing as Phil and Ron started their Counts sales pitch. This went on for about five minutes until our food arrived. As the waitress was putting the food down Billy GLANCED at Phil and Ron and within a second (it seemed less then that) both got up and left the table. When they left and before starting to eat I looked up at Billy. All he did was smile!

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 10:05:39

By Chuck Helmly

Gus:

What was the name of that real bad ass aparment complex (I think the buildings were pink) that we used to go to. I believe we used to pick up Nelson from there. It was somewhere near 8 Street. There were always fights there. We used to drink beers on the corner. I remember someone telling me that one night they rode through there and someone threw a bicycle through the windshield. The rumor was that even the police and fire department were afraid to go in there.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 12:43:28

Gus, I left phone messages with Norris and Johnstone. No luck with Chuck Tyler. Will let you know if I get a response. Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 12:44:29

By John Dannelly

STAG'S CLUB SWEETHEART SONG
The flowers that I see never grew before. The birds never sang what they sing. A love that I never knew before, is now my everything. The light in her eyes is a paradise, revealing a heaven for two. Her lips hold the bliss of a fragrant kiss, like violets wet with dew. One theme my whole heart is singing, a dream of a love come true. And over her heart is the seal of my love, the emblem of purple and white!

This is from memory. May not be exactly correct but it is close. In my time I think the song was used to close each weekly meeting. Also, the first meeting after a Stag pinned his girl all the brothers would gather outside her home and sing the song.

A request on Stag history - I have some knowledge of the early history until about 1961. Will some of the brothers from the 1960s and 1970s fill us old farts in on that time period. Use the Stag History thread. Thanks.
John Dannelly 1957

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 01:45:01

All that from memory. I'm impressed! Thanks, John.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 06:16:51

Brother Dannelly , What a memory. I found a piece of paper from when I got in Stags in 1966. It has written on it several things a pledge and future brother should know and remember; (1) I don't think, I don't contemplate , I don't anticipate, I just reckon, Sir. (2) Hady Kady (3) Sweet heart song. I'm sure some of the words might have changed a little over the years . During my years in Stags, knowing the guys in Stags back then who knows what they were saying. But if you permit me to update it,it says as follows : The flowers that I see never grew before, the birds never sang what they sing. A love that I never knew before,(it) is now my everything, the light in her eyes is a paradise revealing a heaven for two. Her lips hold a bliss of a fragrant kiss like violets wet with dew. One theme my ( HEART) is singing, a dream of a love ( DIVINE) and over her heart ( LIES ) the seal of my love, the emblem, of ( TAU- DELTA - TAU ).

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 06:24:56

Chuck , The apartment buildings were called (PASTORITA )that was Athenians home base. The corner place was called ( BARBARITA MARKET ). No longer Exists . Now you La Carreta Restaurant. 8th st@ 36 ave.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/28/2003 09:56:27

By Mike Flynn

Chuck, thanks for the heads up. I'm flashing back to the night Bischoff, Dicks and I rolled my Anglia in the field we called Vienam over by your family home. We were barred from the dance at CCHS. So for lack of contact we probably went o Pappy's to watch Steve assault some college fraternity guy.Scopetta wasn't there to scare anybody off - we were on our own. To many fun nights with the boys,beer,broads and whatever we come across. Shit, I didn't think I'd make it to 22. I'll pop bye to see you all. Great opening picture of Bob Nelson dancing in 1959.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/29/2003 00:32:38

By Stephen Bischoff '69

Mike,
Its good to hear from you, however you can,t
tell any of our old secrets. I spoke to a Stags
brother who graduated in '57 and he was telling me how the 50's was the Ozzie and Harriet era.
They didn't fight. Was Nelson part of that family? He fought all the time! I hope Nelson
comes to the reunion. Spoke to George Saturday and told him about reunion, he's coming.He works out at the Biltmore every day. I was in Miami last weekend for Gabby Ferrer birthday dinner and
drank until 4 AM with Jim Korth at his house in Grove. Hate Miami, too many Martini's. Keep in touch and take care!

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/29/2003 04:57:35

You are right Gus. The place was called "Pastarita" I remember some really crazy things hapening there.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/29/2003 05:32:09

Hey Mike and Steve. I remember seeing you guys the night you rolled Flynn's car in the place we called Viet Nam. I think I had a date that night, otherwise I probably would have been with you.

Pappy's Pizza-man that brings back a lot of memories! We had some really great times there. Remember the apartment buildings behind Pappy's. I remember a major confrontation there one night. I think Bischoff and Perpich were involved in that one.

I also remember going to (in some cases trying to get into) the UM frat parties.

Hey remember the Collisium. That was also a pretty cool place.

How about PAL on Bird Road, Hot Shops and Pizza Palace, and the football games at Central Stadium.

How about the Big Daddy's on Douglas Road and Coral Way. Hey Mendoza, remember the night in Sambos when you wanted to eat steak!

Great to talk to you yesterday Mike. Keep in touch.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/29/2003 06:20:23

Steve you are right whenever you went anywhere with Nelson you had to better be ready for action. He would always find a good reason why someone needed to get pounded.

Does anyone remember the stags campout on quail roost road, someone lit a can of gasoline, on fire and Holloway kicked it burning his foot. Is that correct?

As we were taking him to the hospital i smashed in to the back of David Edwards car and destroyed my Mustang.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/29/2003 07:05:54

John ,remember the apartments behind pappys the night Algomany got his head smashed by a beer mug.??? You and perpich along with the rest of us took over the apartments and remodeled the interiors and everything else that got in our way.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/29/2003 10:11:57

Gaston, the girls name was Jan McKinley, and I don't think we were supposed to be there.
I don't remember all these fights you keep talking about, I was in to peace and harmony with Roberto.
Mike is good to see your post...John

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/29/2003 11:29:53

John, I was the peace loving guy. You got me in trouble . Remember the night at Paula Solomom's ??you and me with Paula @ Jan. her parents coming home your trusted cougar not starting and we spending the night in the golf course,??Hoping to get to my house and getting my dads car, except my dad was coming home from work and caught us walking home down bird road instead at 7am.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/29/2003 11:35:00

By >Jerry Ford ...... Counts 64-65

John ,just got e-mail from Injaychock . he tells me that he spoke to Berta and that Robert Wood Past away in Colorado in 1976.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/30/2003 08:34:23

I see there are a lot of Billy Adams stories going around......so I think I will add one......OK Billy,, come and get me.......muahahahahahahahahahahahahah LOL

Time.....1970 (I think)
Place......Miami Police Dept. Training Accademy

I walk in........for the first class about to start........I walk face into Billy______ we both look each other straight in the eyes....and at the same time we both say " WHAT THE F��K ARE YOU DOING HERE!" hahahahahahahahahahahahah

What a hoot........

best to you guys.....jer

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/30/2003 09:40:14

By Chuck Helmly

Hey Gus:

I remember the night behind Pappy's. I remember a lot of blood, and a major apartment remodeling. I believe brother Bischoff was also involved in that one.

Remember the Collisium. That was a pretty cool place. How about Central Stadium, PAL, Hot Shopps and Pizza Palace.

How about skipping school and going to Sewer Beach.

Good to hear from you Mike I remember the night you guys rolled your car in Viet Nam, and the Columbus dances and Brother Leo. I remember one night Brother Leo refused to let us in the dance. After pleading with him for 30 minutes, he finally let us in. As soon as we walked in the door, Brother Steve hit some guy in the face with his shoe. Needless to say we were asked to leave, and were forever banned from Columbus dances.

Speaking of famous Miami bad boys, I remember some legends about your brother John.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/30/2003 10:48:46

John, I remember the camp out on Quail Roost Rd. Holloway's burns didn't come from gasoline, but did come from igniting volatile gasses. I think they had to surgically remove his underwear.
BTW, what ever happened to your Mustang? Was that a 1966 GT ? Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/30/2003 11:30:34

By Isidro Jauregui (68)

Gaston, Arturo, Nelson and every other guy that rode in Toto's and mine 195? Chevy. The one with the hole in the floor. Lot's of good memories there. Going to Pastorita to steel cases of beer and being persecuted by Cubans with machetes. I was part of that fight with Argonaniz behind BK that got real ugly, also a few weeks later we went back for more and they were waiting for us.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/30/2003 12:12:58

Isidro, how well do I remember, if it wasn't for the Cuban guys that worked at BK , I probably wouldn't be here today. Alan Washington and Pat Font dragged me inside after that guy that I hit over the head with the mop handle shook it off,came after me and knocked me out like nothing happened. Those were the good days.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/30/2003 06:28:58

Hey Guys:

Lets hear some stories about the fight with Counts in the Key; who started that? Abney drove me to the hospital that day when I popped my shoulder out and I missed most of it, as I was leaving the hospital brother Bob Nelson was coming in to get his head stitched.

Manny

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/30/2003 07:25:46

Chocho,you got us all involved in a fight to always remenber .Residents of Key Biscayne probably put your picture in the post office as most wanted. I'am sure Steve Bass hasn't forgotten. Too bad your arm poppped out of socket. alumni brothers got involved and thanks to Bob Nelson we survived . Then life couldn't get worst for some of us. I decide to go to your house to see how you were doing and the next thing I know WE ARE SURROUNDED BY COUNTS in your front yard. you go inside ,I jump in my car and down red road I go .Thank god for the gables and so.miami cops that stopped me for running every red light north until I reach allens drugs store. Steve trescott lost his two front teeth at BK by lenny Reyna and all of this (OVER A GIRL) thank you Chocho.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/30/2003 08:08:46

Herby it was a Mustang two plus two 289, 1966, white with beige interior. Herby were where you during all these fights, you are the toughest guy in
Stags, other than me, and I dont remember any of these fights. I certainly dont remember the gaston ever geting beat up.

I am sorry to hear about Robert Wood, I din't know him well but him he was a very nice person. I see Berta once in a while....John

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/30/2003 08:43:58

John, don't forget I was only safe when I was with you,Herbie,Perpich,Isidro Arturo and the Helmly Brothers. But you are right .I didn't get beat often . Reason why is that I was always protecting our best interests .(The Girls), otherwise you guys would never would have had dates. ISIDRO WAS MY GUARDIAN ANGEL A COUPLE OF TIMES IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.Co-eds Shipwreck and After High School in Coconut Grove in an open house.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/31/2003 09:05:18

John, I didn't know that I had a reputation as a bad ass till your post. I don't think I ever got in trouble. You, Perpich, Gaston, Garcia and Nelson maybe but never me. I couldn't fight my way out of a wet paper bag. As far as remembering fights, I can remember a few. The one on the Key really stands out. Every minute of it!
John, did you play any "sand lot football" before highschool? I know Johnstone did and like yourself he was great. I will try to find a picture of you given to me by Tommy Ott's Mom after his death. It was part of a whole group of pictures he took at football games. It was taken of you making a open field tackle during the Miami High/Gables game in 67 or 68.(I think it was Miami High) Tommy took the picture with a camera with a telephoto lense. I guarantee, you have nothing like it. I will try my best to find it and get it to you. Herb

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/31/2003 10:28:51

By Mark Leopold

I would agree that Billy was a really tough guy. I would also add that you could not ask for a better brother. He always watched out for us. A truly sweet guy. Jose will vouch that the beloved Larry Volonino was the same type of guy.
What a loss!

Best to all see you at the party.

Leopold

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/31/2003 02:22:06

yes gaston did look out for the girls. always. in fact, it was gaston that introduced me to george. so he is correct. he found us all dates and in many cases guys we stayed with for a long time. sounds like you guys were fighting every second! i remember fights but i don't remember so many. any leads on jeran pass them my way. we are trying to get all the sponsors at the reunion. have three out of four so far.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/31/2003 06:50:42

Mark, I for one, will agree with you 110%. The guys that grew up with me from elememtary thru high school and those that I had the good fortune to have around, that became Stags Brothers, always looked up to you guys with a lot of respect. I could sit here and list all of you , but it will take me forever. Stags was more than a club to all us . Stags was fun, friends, sadness, happiness. We were and are like family .Thanks to the guys from your days, it was an honor and a priveledge to be a brother in Stags. Anyone of us could have been something else, but a Stag is always a Stag as we are seeing now more than ever, as we prepare for the first time to unite together, all the past generations, that made it possible....Thank you, TO ALL YOU OLD FARTS.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/31/2003 08:10:45

By John Scopetta 68

Gaston, the night we got in to the fight behind BK I ended up hiding in Ponce Junior high for about two hours until the cops left somebody was with me, does anyone remember that? When we busted through the door some guy smacked me in the head and I had a big bump on my head but we destroyed the place and them.

Herby you were so strong and tough that no one f...k with you, that is the reason you never got in to trouble but those guys from Counts were terrified of you.

Janet, Cielo introduced me to Ruth and I introduced Jeran to Raul, and Cielo to Isidro. Don't give Gaston all the credit.

Remember our Stags formal senior year in that hall over by calle 8, when we put Nelson in charge of the booze and all he got was 15 cases of beer at Barbarita Market across the street. Arturo got to get Nelson to come.

Herby I played in many sandlot games including our pickup stags game when you almost kicked my butt, If it would not have been for Gaston and Arturo Tezanos backing you down you might have killed me.

Toughest Guys in Stags I vote for Isidro after a few beers he would have taken on Mike Tyson in his prime. Toughest guy on the Golf coarse, Steve Bishoff I have seen Steve intimidate more golfers with his driver than Tiger woods. And I dont mean hitting the ball.....John

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 05/31/2003 08:26:46

John , we did have lots of guys in Stags that were tough back then, but lets not forget those quiet types we had that were allways there. Johnstone to me was one of those guys. Remember the Stags Athenian Softball game at Gables High Field ???? not to mention any names ,but paul was tested and none of those bad boys came forward

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/01/2003 09:10:48

By Mark Leopold

I lived right near Jim Perpich and got to know him well. I played baseball with him at the South Miami Junior High field every summer and he was a hell of an athlete.

My senior year I was playing quarterback against Ching Tang and we we're kicking their ass. Rick Pippinger put Jimmy in at QB the last series of the game and guess what? The very first play he broke his shoulder.

Anyone have an idea of where he might be?

Best,

Leopold

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/01/2003 11:29:05

WE NEED YOU GUYS TO REGISTER AND START SENDING IN YOUR MONEY TO MAKE THIS REUNION ONE TO REMEMBER . NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/02/2003 07:59:42

Thanks Gaston:

Yes we need to get behind the guys that organized the reunion. I'm sure the group of 66-70 will want to continue their discussions in person at the Biltmore just 60 some odd days away. In order for the committee (i'm not on it)to push the Biltmore for more service and a better party we need to show a strong force in the advanced registration of the guys. Needless to say it is necessary in the ordering of food etc.

Terry 56

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/02/2003 12:19:00

By Johnny Gibson

This is Susie Gibson. Sister to Larry, Cielo and Johnny Gibson. Johnny is traveling and asked that I send this e-mail for him. So if I have the incorrect spelling of names please forgive me.

Gaston, I sent you a e-mail of all Johnny's phone numbers, addresses, etc. Please let me know that you received the e-mail. Johnny would really like to hear from you.

From Johnny:

Great to hear from you Chuck! But where are the other Brothers? Andy Bretz (?) - Where is John Caruso? He has all the scrapbooks. Would like to hear from everyone!

Everyone needs to get in shape a little bit just in case some Athenians show up cause there just may be a fight!

Johnny

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/02/2003 12:38:09

DEAR BROTHERS FROM THE LATE 60'S-70'S . WE HAVE ALL LET THE OTHER YEARS KNOW HOW TOUGH WE WERE . NOW IT IS TIME TO SHOW OUR GOOD SIDE. LETS WRITE ABOUT THE FUN TIMES OUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES OF WHAT BEING A STAGS REALLY WAS. NO MORE ASS KICKING EPISODES .............. WRITE THOSE TO EACH OTHER ON YOUR INDIVIDUAL E-MAILS. KEEP CONTACTING OTHER BROTHERS ,HAVE THEM REGISTER, SEND IN YOUR MONEY ,THE SOONER THE BETTER, ITS GOING TO MAKE THIS REUNION A LOT MORE FUN.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/02/2003 01:49:03

By Dennis Kennedy

This site is GREAT!! I know many of you and the others are legends who I heard about from guys like Chuck and Tom Helmly, Steve Bischoff, Norman Dicks, Chip Templeton and others. I never got into a fight that was not the fault of one of the above guys. I see where there is much chatter about some fight that Chuck Helmly started. He started many of them and I ended up with a headache each time. They were ALL his fault! Even those at FSU...

Well, I am an old man now and my wife won't let me hang around with Chuck anymoe. SoI lead a more peaceful life-

I hope life has been good to you all-

Take Care-Dennis Kennedy 1970

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/03/2003 02:23:40

pledge class of 66. Do any of you remember Gables by the Sea???? what memories those it bring back??? CRABS ANYBODY.......Yummy

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/03/2003 05:22:17

By Dennis Kennedy

Jerry Ford- Hey bud, I went through the Academy in 1975. I ran into Sgt. Andy Travis (PSD) who in the past had chased me on many occasions both on foot and vehicle. He could never catch me and considered me a challenge. The first day of BLE 18 he walks up to me and says:what the hell are you doing here?
He ended up to be my boss while in Central. He was a great road SGT... The last I heard he was some place in Colorado as a Deputy. They issued him a 30-30, a Jeep and a horse....

Take care my friend, stay away from the 41b's and may your life be QRU...

Dennis Kennedy

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/03/2003 05:58:13

Gaston:

Good idea about the tough talk and all the fights etc...the guys of the 50's were lovers and when they were free from romancing the ladies would kick an ass or two

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/03/2003 06:56:02

By Don H

Amen big "T"

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/03/2003 10:30:20

Gaston:

you brought back great memories Gables by the Sea this was a rockpit that we used to park at on a nightly basis

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/04/2003 00:40:16

By ART ABNEY:68

ya know Gus,it took a brave guy to grab one of those nasty land crabs and actually bite it's head!

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/04/2003 07:12:51

Art, tell me about it. Glen Cornielson would make me lay in the back of his El Camino And he would procede to dump a bunch of live ones on top of me and some other brothers and drive to Jimmy's Hurricane to humiliate us.

Re: Class of 66-70's

Posted at 06/04/2003 10:15:47