Carlos, Carlos, Carlos..... Don't believe a thing John D. said... Jim , put the post card together....he knew the guys and had days of practice to learn the names......on top of that NO LIQUOR.... #1 we 60's and 70's guys present, were drinking the real thing.. ...#2 We were never asked to try it and saw no time watch .. ...#3 Jim , put pictures of 2 brothers that were in STAGS before you were born, IS THAT FAIR ???????????you tell me....